Episode 233
Stop Fitting In, Start Standing Out
SUMMARY
Most of us spend our lives trying to blend in; at work, in friendships, even on stage. But the harder we chase acceptance, the more invisible we become.
In this episode, I share my own story of being pushed out of the very communities I once belonged to, and how that rejection became the catalyst for finding my voice. You’ll learn why “not fitting in” is often the beginning of true influence, how to turn outsider energy into credibility, and why your quirks might be your greatest professional asset.
🔥 What you’ll take away:
- The psychology behind belonging and exclusion
- Why hiding your truth erodes influence (and how to stop)
- How to reframe rejection as the start of credibility
- Practical steps to turn difference into magnetic presence
This isn’t about theory. It’s about lived experience, raw stories, and a roadmap for anyone who’s ever felt like they didn’t belong.
Do you want to hear the story that made me feel so vulnerable on stage? https://youtu.be/MRR9K9HvnRE
👉 Listen in and discover why not fitting in might just be your unfair advantage.
CHAPTERS
00:00 Introduction: Embracing the Outsider Advantage
01:02 Personal Story: The Pain of Not Fitting In
02:52 Questioning Beliefs: A Turning Point
04:49 The Power of Authenticity
08:31 Navigating Relationships and Acceptance
12:49 The Importance of Vulnerability
20:18 Conclusion: Your Uniqueness as Leverage
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Transcript
Most of us spend our lives trying to be in at work,
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:in friendships, even on stage.
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:But the harder we try, the more
invisible we can end up feeling.
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:And I know that struggle firsthand from
comedy clubs through to corporate teams.
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:I've often felt like the odd one
out, and I've seen the same pattern
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:in clients I've worked with as well.
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:The ones who don't really blend in,
and they're the ones who often have
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:the most potential to stand out.
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:In this episode, I'm gonna
show you how not fitting in can
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:become your unfair advantage.
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:You'll learn why standing apart creates
influence, how to reframe rejection
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:into credibility, and while the
very thing that you might have been
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:hiding could be your strongest tool
and asset on stage and in business.
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:We're going to unpack real stories.
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:Look at the psychology behind
belonging, and we'll finish off with
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:practical steps to turn your outsider
energy into a magnetic presence.
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:Welcome to Present Influence: The
Professional Speaking Show for
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:speakers, coaches and experts who want
to deliver their message with more
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:impact, influence, and inspiration.
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:My name's John Ball and I'm your
guide on this journey to mastery
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:level communication skills.
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:I'm willing to bet you've had at least
one, probably more experiences in your
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:life of feeling like you didn't belong
somewhere or hadn't really fitted in.
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:And for me, many of those, many,
especially in tar, I can think
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:probably all the way back, some of
my earliest memories were of times
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:when I didn't really fit the mold
and fit in with the other kids.
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:I've always felt a little bit different.
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:And those sorts of feelings can
become particularly intense during
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:our teenage years is undoubtedly
when the hormones are raging.
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:And what we want more than
anything is for people to like
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:us and for us to be popular.
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:And if that's not really happening,
it can be very painful time and
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:often is for many teenagers.
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:But it can show up many times
in our adult life as well.
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:Now, one example for me was
through the latter part of my teen
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:years where I had this feeling
of not belonging very intensely.
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:I belonged to a church, I belonged
to a church youth group, and I had
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:the experience of what some people
might call being excommunicated
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:or in the church that I was in,
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:It was having my membership revoked,
and maybe not for the reasons that
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:you might expect, and things like
my sexual preference had nothing to
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:do with that decision whatsoever.
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:It was actually called by me questioning
the literal truth of the Bible in a Bible
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:study group when I was about, I think I
must have been about 15, 16 years old.
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:one of the church elders was a lead in
the study, and he absolutely believed
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:in the literal truth of the Bible.
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:None of it was myth.
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:It is all literally true that the
Garden of Eden, Noah's flood, all of it.
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:And so because I didn't, and because I
questioned that, he pressured the church
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:leadership to have me removed from the
church membership, I was no longer an
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:official member, and so I was no longer
allowed to go to the church youth group.
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:I was no longer allowed to really be
a part of the church as such, although
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:they said I could still attend church
services mostly because they still wanted
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:me to go and play the organ because they
didn't have enough church organists.
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:Uh, so I think some slightly
selfish motives there.
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:I'd always been told not to question
stuff and that questioning was bad.
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:And if you're asking questions, you're
doubting your faith and that, but inside,
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:I always held this belief that if you
couldn't question what you believed in,
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:you didn't really, truly believe it.
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:And if your beliefs couldn't withstand
some questioning and scrutiny, were they
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:strong enough beliefs to really hold onto?
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:And that thought never really escaped me.
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:And I would say that whole time and
that particular incident set me on
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:the path of moving away from religion
and, uh, more into philosophy.
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:being a little different, asking
some questions, not just going along
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:with what I was being told to go
along with, made me an outsider in an
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:organization where I had been an insider.
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:It pushed me out of the church youth
group where all my friends were.
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:It didn't cause any
divisions in my family.
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:I'm happy to say that, but it did
cause some internal conflict as to,
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:you know, was this the right path?
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:Am I moving away from my beliefs?
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:How important are they to me there?
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:There was a lot going on.
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:All of that on top of, you know,
teenage hormones and all the
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:other nonsense that goes on for
us when we're in our teen years.
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:We have a lot to deal with as we are
figuring out how to grow up and who we
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:want to be and all those kinds of things.
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:It was a painful experience.
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:as I look back now, hindsight being what
it is, and it probably even not that
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:long after I was able to look back and
see this, that that exclusion did set
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:me on a path that I wanted to be on.
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:That I started moving more towards,
thinking came more for myself.
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:I had a very strong desire to learn how
to think for myself after many years
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:of being told what to think, and I have
no regrets about that whatsoever, but.
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:I do feel that if I hadn't been that
little bit different, if I hadn't
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:been apart from the crowd, I might
not have, I might have just carried
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:on, believing, carried on, tending,
carried on, being told what to believe,
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:what to think, and not questioning it.
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:And so I can't really
see it as a bad thing.
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:And eventually I did move away
from being even a church organist.
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:Of just not wanting to go in there.
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:So there was a big realization
that happened for me in that
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:time of recognizing that I
wanted to be my own person.
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:It was more important to me to
be who I am than to be who other
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:people wanted or needed me to
be, to fit into that environment.
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:And I think many of us face those
decisions on a regular basis.
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:Do we show up in each situation as who
we really are or do we show up as who
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:we think is acceptable or others want
us to be who we are supposed to be?
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:I talked about professionalism in an
episode a while back and how that can,
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:for some people, end up being a prison
for them, a costume that they put on a
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:way of showing up that limits them in
many ways because they feel that they
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:have to fit into this like archetype, this
idea or concept of what a professional
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:person is supposed to be like.
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:And that means they end up squashing
aspects of themselves or hiding
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:thoughts away, biting their lips,
keeping their mouth shut when they
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:really want to say something for the
sake of fitting in or not rocking the
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:boat, and all those sorts of things.
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:And certainly in my life, having been
having, being someone who has been in
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:circumstances where my sexuality has
been an issue, being in circumstances
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:where my lack of religious belief
has been an issue and caused some
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:difference in conflict and othering.
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:It can feel very awkward and, and
we do have to make those decisions.
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:Do we feel safe?
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:Do we feel safe to be honest
about what we really want to say?
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:Do we have what we call the psychological
safety to be able to say that?
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:Or do we have at least a big enough
value about staying true to our
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:core self, that we're not prepared
to lie or not prepared to fake?
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:We are going to say what really, what
we really want to say, what we really
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:need to say, even if there might be
some negative consequences attached
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:to that, we have to make these calls.
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:All the time.
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:And I would say probably one of
the times that I was most recently
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:confronted with this was a storytelling
competition and me being, you know,
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:the natural people pleaser in me, which
I'm always trying to work to suppress,
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:wanted the story that would please
everybody be relatable for everybody.
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:And I just had to accept that
that wasn't going to happen.
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:Even if I tried to do that, that probably
still wouldn't be the end result.
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:I was far better to go for an
authentic story that was true to me.
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:Might not even feel relatable for
everybody, but for those who would,
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:it would be really relatable and,
and could, could really, hopefully,
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:really feel the same kinds of feelings.
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:So I wanted to tell a story about
my coming out and about having
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:faced people being against me
for who I am for my sexuality.
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:Someone even who was against me for
my marriage and was trying to stop
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:my parents attending my wedding.
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:That whole story is online.
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:If you want to see it.
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:I'll put a link to it in the show
notes so you can check it out.
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:But the whole process of creating
that story was, was confronting
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:because if I put this out, this
is me putting out who I really am.
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:And this is now even, even for, for
future professional opportunities,
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:there are people who may well see that,
who won't want to work with somebody
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:like me just because of my sexuality.
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:There will be people who don't approve,
but there will also be people who either
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:don't care, or who do, maybe approve
maybe, love and accept or, or maybe
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:just are welcoming enough and diverse
enough in their thought and opinions
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:to not be exclusive of people and not
to exile or push people out, but to
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:say, no, we welcome the diversity.
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:You know, we may not always understand it
and we may not always be able to relate
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:to it personally, but we still welcome
it and we welcome you and we accept you.
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:That's a very powerful thing
when we find it so very often.
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:Being excluded from the environments
in which we are restricted and we can't
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:fully be ourselves is a real gift.
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:Because it pushes us, hopefully, at
least it pushes us to go and find the
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:places where we are, where we will be
welcomed or will even be celebrated.
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:And if you are not in those environments
where you are being welcomed and
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:celebrated, where you have the
psychological safety to say what's really
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:in your heart and to be who you truly
are, then you need to go and find those.
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:Now undoubtedly there are people who
have trauma and mental health issues,
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:and maybe even other psychological
challenges that might need a bit
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:more than that, and that's okay.
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:There's stuff to deal with separately, but
I'm talking a little more generally here.
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:The times in life where we just feel
there's an aspect of us that doesn't
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:really fit in, we think a bit differently.
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:I would expect that neurodiverse
people particularly feel this.
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:'cause often they'll think about things
a little differently and not relate
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:to things in exactly the same way.
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:And whilst that can be undoubtedly
challenging, there's always gifts
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:that can come from these things.
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:Gifts that can come from seeing
things in a different way.
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:So not fitting in end ends up
ultimately being an advantage.
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:Your crowd, the people who like you and
love you or can at least relate to your
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:situation and to your experience are going
to do that and they're gonna support it.
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:And those who don't won't, and
they're not your people and you, we
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:ultimately just have to accept that
and we should have some discernment and
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:discrimination about when and where,
where we use our superpower, if you like,
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:our unfair advantage, I would say
for speakers, particularly if if you
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:are trying to be an image, rather
than be a real person, you're always
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:gonna be playing make believe.
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:And as somebody who lived enough years
of my life in the closet, trying to
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:pretend to be someone who I wasn't.
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:So because I was so afraid of
people seeing who I really was,
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:I can tell you that that is a
very uncomfortable place to be.
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:Whatever your closet is, whatever
the mask is that you have over your
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:face is gonna be uncomfortable.
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:There's gonna be pain for that
and, and you are gonna pay.
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:You are gonna pay probably with
pain, probably with sadness,
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:probably with feeling unfulfilled
or unable to fully realize yourself
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:for who you are to live your truth.
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:These things are so important.
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:We're often so afraid of being excluded
or exiled because we're different.
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:I think the fear of exile is very deep
rooted within us because in humanity's
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:past exile meant almost certain death
being cast out of a community or society.
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:You would no longer have access
to your resources to, to food,
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:to people, family status.
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:Everything you had would be gone and
you'd be out in the wilds with the
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:wild animals and the bandits and all
the uncertainty that goes with that.
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:Some people might just make it through,
but many people probably wouldn't.
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:And so the fear of being
exiled is a very real one.
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:And even today, it does happen in certain
situations where people can still be
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:exiled from, from their families, from
their communities, from the people they've
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:been a part of, because they're different
because they choose to live their truth
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:rather than to try and fit in or hide who
they truly are for the sake of the group.
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:And in those circumstances, it can
lead to severe sadness, depression,
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:and worse, let's be honest, it
can lead to far worse things.
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:So I guess I am encouraging you with
this video to be true to yourself, to
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:live your truth and speak and live from
your heart and to not hide the things
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:that make you different to other people.
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:Certainly, okay.
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:Sometimes there are things in people's
lives that make them too different to
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:ever be acceptable, and you probably
know what those things are, and if
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:that's something you're dealing with.
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:This is not what I'm talking about here.
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:I'm talking about.
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:Quirky personalities, maybe some
eccentrics, maybe being a very
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:musical or arty person and a
family of scientists makes you very
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:different and hard to relate to.
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:There are so many times maybe, maybe
not being of the same religion as other
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:people or, or maybe even being a religious
person in a non-religious environment.
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:There are ways that you could end up
feeling othered or judged negatively
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:because of things that you hold true,
but staying true to who you are,
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:Is going to be much better for you
because the friends you have, the people
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:who love and care for you will genuinely
love and care for you for who you are
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:and the people that don't, even though
that can be painful to be turned away by
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:people who you want to love and care for
you, they ultimately, we can find our
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:family, we can find our tribe, we can
find the people who we will fit with.
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:We can find our audience, we
can connect with them as well.
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:So.
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:This is about vulnerability as
much as anything else as well.
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:This is about the ability
to be vulnerable on stage.
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:We don't have to show
all aspects of our lives.
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:We don't have to hang out all of
our dirty, dirty laundry or tell
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:people all our worst thoughts,
fears, insights, actions, whatever.
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:But we do have to be true to our own
inner self, to our own values, if
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:we're gonna be relatable in any way,
otherwise we end up just being an act.
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:It's just a show.
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:And if you just wanna be a, a show
person, and I, I say I've seen this in
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:the personal development world, people
who are just showmen or show women,
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:that don't have the depth.
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:It's all superficial.
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:They don't really have anything deeper
to go into, and they're different
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:people when you take them off the stage
to who they are when they're on it.
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:It's all a show.
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:It's all fakery, smoke and mirrors.
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:And if that's how you wanna live
your life and you can deal with that.
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:Then fine.
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:Maybe you can take solace in that
you're making money and you know,
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:people are being impressed by what you
do, but at some point it will start
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:to break down at some point the toll
of trying to be someone you are not
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:is going to become too much for you,
is going to get in, in the way of a
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:relationship, is gonna get in the way
of relatability on more personal levels.
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:It will interfere.
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:Years ago I read that book
As A Man Thinketh and here's
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:what I took away from that.
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:I dunno how, how well it really holds up.
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:But you know, there are some things
I still think of from that, and
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:one of them is this, you know, you
know in your heart who you are.
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:So if you do things that aren't true to
you, you know that even if no one else
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:does, even if no one else has cottoned
on to the reality of what's going on
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:inside you, inside your brain, you know.
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:If you were sneaking funds out of a
company bank account and embezzling,
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:and no one ever found out about
it, you would still know, and you
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:still know that that's who you are.
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:And on some level, you're
gonna have to live with that.
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:Or maybe, or maybe you are unbothered
about it, in which case, you know, if
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:you, you have no conscience whatsoever,
this video isn't for you anyway.
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:This really is for people who, who do
have conscience, who do know that not
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:being true to themselves can be a problem.
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:If you hurt somebody and you never
make it right, that's gonna stay
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:with you as well, even if other
people never find out about it.
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:If you, if you pretend to be a success
and people think you are, but you're
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:not really, you're just faking it,
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:buying followers, buying engagement
online, you might end up having a
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:top rated YouTube channel or podcast,
but you've bought all your followers.
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:Other people may not know that.
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:Some might, and some might even
talk about it, but most people
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:are never gonna know about that.
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:But you will.
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:You'll know it's a fake,
you'll know it's not true.
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:The success isn't real, and you are
the one who has to live with that.
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:So this is the question to you, are
you willing to live with those things
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:where you're gonna be true to yourself?
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:And I hope.
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:It's the latter that
you choose to be true.
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:Even though it can be painful
sometimes, even though it can
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:cause some friction, some conflict,
even in particular situations.
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:It's important to be who you are to go
through the challenges and the conflicts.
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:You know, it took me, it took me years
and years to navigate and get through
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:to a, having a good relationship.
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:A close relationship with my parents
again, after coming out, it was
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:very hard because of their religious
belief for them to deal with.
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:But we got there, but it wasn't easy, and
if I'd never chosen to be open about who I
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:was, they would've just thought I was this
guy who just seems to have a lot of male
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:flatmates or some, something like that.
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:They might have tried, and still
tried to convince themselves that
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:I was gonna meet the right girls
someday and settle down and give them
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:grandchildren and all the stuff that
they thought they wanted from me.
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:At some point, they were able to
accept that that wasn't gonna happen,
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:and we ended up in a situation where
I had to put things on the line and
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:say to them, either you accept me
as I am and treat me the right way.
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:Respect me for for that as well, or.
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:We're gonna have a very limited
relationship, very limited contact in the
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:future because that's how it has to be.
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:I have to be who I am, and if you
can't accept that I can't deal with
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:me being in a relationship with
somebody, then we are gonna have a
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:lot of challenges in the future, and
it's gonna damage our relationship.
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:They made the choice.
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:I didn't know which they would choose.
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:They made the choice to choose me.
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:When somebody tried to stop
them coming to my wedding, they
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:made the choice to choose me.
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:That whole story is in, is gonna be
in the link for you as well to check
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:that out, and, uh, I hope you will.
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:It won me an award.
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:It's about they're behind me on the
shelf, but realistically, you know,
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:fitting, fitting in feels safe.
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:It does it's, it's feels safe
and that's why we often don't
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:want to come away from that.
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:But it really silences the best
of you, your best ideas, your
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:creativity, the essence of you.
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:I would really call that.
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:It, uh, shuts down the essence of who you
are because you're trying to be somebody
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:else and you are not gonna be that person.
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:Now, you can definitely work to be better
version of yourself, but it still needs to
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:be true and feel true to you so a better
version of yourself isn't pretending that
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:you are not something that you are, or
not someone who you know you really are.
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:And so, so it's vitally important that
your differences, whatever they may be,
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:maybe you like tattoos and you're
cutting tattoos and there are
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:people in your life who hate that.
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:Maybe you smoke and you have loads of
non-smoking friends and they hate, well,
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:you could probably do something about
that, or maybe you should, but maybe there
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:are people who don't accept you for it.
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:Maybe that you are outside of a group
for for that, or maybe you've stopped
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:smoking and the people who you used
to hang around with don't want you
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:hanging around with them anymore.
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:Because you're not in the ingroup.
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:It could be something as seemingly
small as that, that makes you feel
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:excluded and pushed out, but you are
being true to yourself and true to
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:who you are or who you want to be.
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:These things are particularly important
when it comes to being on stage.
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:When it comes to things like storytelling,
comedy, leadership, speaking, the
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:these things are really essential in
the stories that we're gonna end up
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:telling, because if there's stories
about someone who doesn't really exist,
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:that's gonna be very hard to relate into.
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:If the story's about a version of you
that isn't real, that is faked, then
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:who's gonna really relate to that?
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:People might think they do, some
people might buy in for it for a while.
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:But what happens then if
the cracks start to show?
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:I should say, if I should say, when,
when the cracks start to show in the
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:story and you find it hard to keep that
up or, or something gets out about who
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:you really are and it's different, very
different to who people think you are.
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:When we put anybody on a pedestal,
when we put anyone into this idealized
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:idea of who we think they are.
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:We are not in a real relationship
with them, and that's just as true
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:for us as it is of anyone else.
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:If we have idealized someone, if we
think someone is the best, a guru,
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:the infallible, they're only ever
going to disappoint us because nobody
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:is, and nobody can live up to that.
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:And.
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:Ourselves included.
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:We're trying.
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:If we're trying to live up to
impossible standards, we are
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:always gonna disappoint ourselves.
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:The goal should be to accept
yourself and others for how they are.
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:You don't always have to like them.
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:You don't always have to love and hang
around with them, but accept them.
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:Accept people for who they are and not
need them to conform with who you think
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:they should be or who you want them to be.
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:There are societies in the world where
conformity is treated as a very desirable
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:quality, is sought out, is looked for
as even advertised on dating profiles.
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:I'm a conformist.
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:Is that, is that who you wanna be?
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:You wanna live in a conformist
society where everyone's the
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:same, where there's no real color.
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:It's all just different shades of gray.
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:Diversity really is a superpower.
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:Being different, not
fitting in is valuable.
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:It helps you to stand out, to be
different, to be noticed, and to see
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:Your uniqueness isn't a liability can be
your leverage if you choose for it to be.
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the edges, smoothing things over for
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will be able to lean in and relate.
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:So here's your challenge this week.
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:Notice one place where perhaps you've
been holding back to fit in and flip it.
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:Flip it.
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:Share the different perspective where
the thing that feels too bold, tell the
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:story that you thought was too much,
and then tell me how it went in the
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:more tools to turn your quirks,
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